Wednesday, October 3, 2012

Jailbirds: Does the magazine violate our civil rights?


This question is being presented. Does the practice of posting mugshots on the internet and magazines before a person has actually been convicted violate a person's civil rights? Research the ideas behind American Civil rights and laws that protect people and their privacy in the United States. Your answers should not be straight opinion. We want to see your reasoned judgements concerning this issue. State your source when providing facts concerning your answers to this question.

73 comments:

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Deborah Stripling said...

No, if you commit the crime others should be warned about the crimes you have done. no matter how big or small. Whether or not your convicted you was arrested and they take mugshots as soon as you get in jail. if they book you, they take your fingerprints, mugshot and other info.
-Montana

Deborah Stripling said...

http://www.jailbirdsonline.com/about-us
"they depict recent arrests, Sex Offenders, Wanted Persons, and other types of information they receive from law enforcement. Their purpose is to be a service to the community by making them aware of what’s going on around them". Jailbirds is a great way to check out people in community to make sure your children are going to be fine when they go to a friends or even jus to hang out. Lately, bad things have been happening to many children they are getting abducted and murdered.

Deborah Stripling said...

To Montana,
So you are saying that by publishing the photo of non convicted felons that less children are being abducted? What if you are arrested because your friend shoplifted at the mall. You were together so they arrested you also because you got a little belligerent with the arresting officer. Your mugshot is taken as you mentioned and put in the jailbird magazine. After reviewing the store tapes they find you were actually on the other side of the store when your friend stole the item so the charges are dropped. Sadly though your boss at Wendy's sees your picture and you are fired. Also your boyfriends mother sees your picture and tells him he can no longer see you. He is respectful of his parents wishes and breaks up with you. Actually he was not so thrilled seeing your picture in the Jailbirds so it was not much of a struggle. Since you were never convicted how does that make you feel?

Deborah Stripling said...

Mrs.Stripling,
You have a good point. never would have thought about that, but if your found not guilty they should take it off. but still, i guess if it's a REALLY bad crime then you should get on there, this is a really hard discussion, there are so many ways to to feel about this , but either way whether your boyfriend breaks up with you or you get fired , then its the law. It's their job. They have to do it. Like I said I agrree with what you say , you make very good points.

Deborah Stripling said...

I think that it invaids peoples privacy of the convicted. Jailbirds is a .com website which means there in it for the money. I could understand if they used it upon request from school , a parent, or workplace to show proof of a clean record.

Jesse

To Mrs stripling
I also agree with you even if your with a friend and they get caught stealing your with them and get arrested too.while there is many ways to avoid stay out of trouble and you won't have any problems

Deborah Stripling said...

I think that it invaids peoples privacy of the convicted. Jailbirds is a .com website which means there in it for the money. I could understand if they used it upon request from school , a parent, or workplace to show proof of a clean record.

Jesse

To Mrs stripling
I also agree with you even if your with a friend and they get caught stealing your with them and get arrested too.while there is many ways to avoid stay out of trouble and you won't have any problems

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Bronson Murabito said...

To Mrs. Stripling
I agree with you, if your with a friend and they get busted for shop lifting or something and you get arrested then its wrong for your face to show up in JailBirds because its gonna hinder you from getting a job or you can get fired from your job that your working at now. When it all comes down to it, Jailbirds should not be able to post a mugshot of someone until they are completely proven guilty.

Bronson Murabito said...

tHIS PAPER IS HUMILIATING AND VIOLATES HUMAN RIGHTS TO PRIVACY. IF YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY WHY PUT SOMEONES PICTURE IN THE PAPER UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY OF THE CRIME. THIS IS A WAY FOR YOU TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF HUMILIATING PEOPLE.

Deborah Stripling said...

In the United States Constitution, it states that all people, yes, ALL people are innocent until proven guilty. When a person commits a crime, or is thought to have committed it, then their photo is automatically posted on a website and published in a magizine. This clearly violates our rights as citizens of the US. However, I also believe it depends on the severity of the crime whether or not your picture will released to the public. That would have to be determined by those who convict the suspected felons. With this being said, I do believe it is right to post a picture of a criminal if he or she is proved guilty, but not if they are simply suspected of a crime, becuase it could lead to a number of negative outcomes. - Aaron Earley

To Mrs. Stripling, as you can see from my previous statement, I most definitely agree with your arguement about the people being at the scene of the crime. If someone is convicted for simply argueing with a cop or something as small as that, then it is totally unjustified for their picture to be placed in such a magizine. This can cause their life tospiral downward, leaving them in a difficult position.

Ivey Wood said...

I believe if these people are to unresponsible to do the crime, I really don't see a problem in it. I think this should be part of their punishment.

Ivey Wood said...

I also agree with Montana's first commit. This is a good reason, these pictures could save lives from dangerous criminals.

Ivey Wood said...

I agree with Jesse until a certian point. But if they didn't want their privacy invaided they shouldn't do the crime.

Deborah Stripling said...

I believe that if you are taken away in handcuffs, then you have done something wrong, but I also believe that if you haven't been proven guilty, then your picture should not be placed in jailbirds.

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Deborah Stripling said...

To Ivey,
Your comment does not really tell me if you think they should be convicted or not when their picture is posted.
Ms. Stripling

Deborah Stripling said...

To everyone
You need check your spelling and grammar before posting. The whole world can read this.
Ms. Stripling

Deborah Stripling said...

I most definitely think that a mugshot can violate a persons civil rights. What if you had nothing to do with the crime that was committed and you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time...? Now, the person who actually committed the crime, and your mugshot is posted in the Jailbird Magazine. Even though the charges are dropped against you. Your mugshot still remains in the magazine. You could lose your job if you have one at the time, and if not. It could possibly ruin your chances for any career that you might have in the future.

- Monica Landrum

Deborah Stripling said...

I strongly agree with Bronson. I think that he made a good point. He said that "Jailbirds should not be able to post a mugshot of someone until they are completely proven guilty." This makes much since, because if your mugshot is put in the Jailbirds Magazine it could hinder you from many different things in your future.

- Monica Landrum

shea taylor said...

I don't believe that they should be able to post pictures of people mugshots before they were convicted, unless it was like a DUI or something like that, because they might not be quilty. If someone has a babysitter and their sitter was falsey accused it could ruin their life. And some people don't have all that money to remove their picture.
-Shea

shea taylor said...

I agree with Monica because this does violate a persons civil rights. You shouldn't be put in the jail birds for the whole world to see if your not guilty.
-Shea

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Deborah Stripling said...

Destinee Amin:
I agree with Monica and Bronson 100%. On average, 10,000 innocent people are convicted wrongly each year. I believe that after the person is found guilty of the charges that Jailbirds should be able to release the picture to the public to warn the citizens of the area.

Deborah Stripling said...

Destinee Amin:
I agree with Aaron to a certain extent. I believe that all people are innocent until proven guilty, however, I think that it doesn't matter what crime they are accused of committing. They are still innocent until the verdict is made that he/she is guilty.

Deborah Stripling said...

Destinee Amin:
The phrase "innocent until proven guilty" means the legal concept that the guilt of an accused person cannot be presumed and that they must be assumed to be innocent until proven otherwise. (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/innocent-until-proven-guilty.html)
With that in mind, I believe that the magazine Jailbirds does violate the civil rights of everyone whose picture was printed. The mugshots are those of everyone who were arrested, but NOT found guilty! For instance, the man in this article is just a suspect in this case. He is forever effected by this. He could have nothing at all to do with this murder and robbery, but he will always have his mugshot in Jailbirds and on the Jailbirds website. (http://www.jailbirdsonline.com/arrested/one-suspect-dead-one-in-custody-after-armed-robbery.htm)
This doesn't just apply to this man, but to the many others that are exposed to the public through Jailbirds. Especially to the people who were found innocent or the charges were dropped. They could lose jobs and never get another one. Jailbirds definitely violates the civil rights of each and every person who was arrested and put in the magazine.

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凌靖 said...

People should not post the it until that person has found guilty. Nowadays, internet spread things that most of it are not the truth even not exist. People just tend to follow the crowd keep posting issues without thinking. Sometimes, after someone has arrested although he hasn't found guilty, people post this thing and this may cause the "justice" inside of people that push them to dig out everything about the suspect. This kind of internet research will ruin not just the suspect's life but also the life of people around him. A lot of people especially young people suicided because of the pressure form the internet, maybe they have nothing to do with the crime. ---Christy

Deborah Stripling said...

This argument works both ways in my opinion. A mug shot for certain people is to let the community know who they surround themselves with and what's going on. For instance if I have a neighbor who did something and went to jail I would like to know who. But also some mug shots are for somebody who did nothing just was in the wrong place and the wrong time , and I wouldn't like for everybody to see a mug shot of me for a misunderstand. I highly recommend you to get permission if its your first time getting a mug shot and if you want it up. The law states your not guilty until proven , well until your proven you did what they accuse you off then they should put it your mug shot. It has it advantages and disadvantages and go both ways and different views. -Ravyn

Deborah Stripling said...

The argument is very clear. Mug shots are used to allow people to see those who have been victimized. I do believe that for a person to be victimized they must be proven guilty. These people having mug shots displayed have not been proven guilty. They should prove them guilty before anything else is done then publicly announce it. _ Hannah

Deborah Stripling said...

Personally, I can't decide how I stand on this. I understand why some people want to see other people's mug shots. If I were an adult and had a family, I'd like to know if anyone that I associate with may one day hurt me or my family. On the other hand, not everyone in the mug shots were/are convicted. That means their lives were ruined because someone posted or shared their mug shot before hearing a verdict.-Kendal

Deborah Stripling said...

In my opinion, I don't think people should post mug shots of other people; It's an invasion of privacy. I understand that people in the community would want to be aware of possible criminals, but just because they have a mug shot, doesn't mean that they did something. They could have been unaware of what was going to happen. -Maritza

Deborah Stripling said...

I believe that we shouldn't be allowed to see a persons mug shot unless they are convicted because it is unfair for everyone to be able to see you mugshot if you did nothing wrong or if your not convicted. people are arrested for things they didn't do and then there mugshot gets put out and when everone sees it there reputation is ruined

Deborah Stripling said...

I believe that a person's mugshot should only be shown in Jailbirds or similar materials depending on if they have been convicted and what there charge is. For example if someone is caught with illegal substances then their mugshot should be shown but, if someone is arrested for something they didn't do then they should wait until that person is fully convicted through a trial with a jury of peers -Dj

Stealmysunshine? said...

It violates the 4th Amendment to the constitution of course it violates anyone's rights! Yes the paper has the right to free speech but the mugshots shouldn't be in their possession! The people haven't even had their day in court.

Stealmysunshine? said...

It violates the 4th Amendment to the constitution of course it violates anyone's rights! Yes the paper has the right to free speech but the mugshots shouldn't be in their possession! The people haven't even had their day in court.

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Anthony Agner said...

Jail Birds should not be able to post innocent people mugshot before they even go to court or anything. The 4th Amendment states "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized". Also they should not be able to charge people to take their picture down if they are innocent because it goes against the 4th Amendment.

Malachi West said...

I think that it does violate civil rights. A person shouldn't be made into a criminal until after they are convicted. And by posting a picture of someone online, it is invading that persons life. But then again, if you are arrested then there is a reason you got arrested. If you weren't doing the wrong thing at the wrong time then you wouldn't have been in trouble.

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Madison Bailey said...


I think it does violate a person's rights. I asked my uncle who is an officer about how he felt about the situation. He stated " people commit crimes all the time but sometimes people catch the wrong people. I think that the newspaper is a way to warn people of these criminals when they have been found guilty". So then i asked him if he thought it was reasonable for someone to have to pay 500$ to get their picture taking out of that paper. His response was " I think the innocent should be able to have their pictures removed for free". The people that get arrested did not give consent to have their picture uploaded or printed so why should they be blackmailed to pay

Katrina Williams said...

It does violate our civil rights. Civil rights violation refers to an offense that occurs as a result of the use of force or the threat of force by the offender against a victim. When a person's mugshot is posted it does violate their civil rights because most people such as Police Officers always have a preconceived bias of people many black people get shot or always thrown in jail just because of their race and they always seem to think that they are the only people who do anything wrong. We always see black people who are accused of doing wrong things but it is rarely ever that you see Cops who shoot white people because of their race

Unknown said...

I agree with these comments. It does violate our civil rights. I don't understand why black people are always judged. It isn't right. When someone is arrested and they have to get a mugshot taken it shouldn't be out in media until they are proven guilty because then people automatically judge them when they get out. People who get arrested should have the right to say no to having their mugshot taken. People who get arrested are innocent most of the time and it isn't fair when their picture is blasted all over social media.

Unknown said...

I believe that it does violate our civil rights. Civil rights are the rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality. Most of the people in the jailbirds are innocent, they haven't been proven guilty yet and they post their mugshots when being arrested. Any and everyone will see their picture and they could be innocent but to other people's view they are bad and a criminal just because they got arrested not knowing if they did or didn't commit the crime. I think they should only be in the jailbirds if they are absolutely positive the person is guilty.

Unknown said...

Your online reputation lasts forever — whether positive or negative. Embarrassing comments and photos can resurface. Even criminal records like arrest information and public mugshots can be accessed and exploited online. Mugshot removal websites have built a business around displaying arrest records and demanding payment to delete the photos. However, victims now have many options to remove these damaging images from Google. no one shouldn't be posted untill they are found guilty

Unknown said...

I do not think that jailbirds is a violation of people's rights because when someone is arrested that is public record even if they have not been convicted. On one hand you can argue what if later they are found to be innocent and their picture is put on a website for everyone to see, but you also have to think, what if they didn't? What if the spartanburg county officers arrested someone with nothing but mistaken identification ,which is the leading cause of wrongful convictions. Yes they have their one phone call but what happens when the person you call doesn't want to come get you out/ doesn't want to get involved. You end up sitting in jail without a hope of someone knowing your there. Then again, that's if they are convicted, what if you arent and you are there as an innocent party or there because you happened to be at the wrong place wrong time and get your mugshot taken and put on the website. If you were innocent they have ways of getting rid of the charge from your record.

Unknown said...

Booking records, including mugshots, are considered and legally recognized as public records, in the public domain. Because they are in the public domain, you are free to post them.

Unknown said...

Well its not right at all I mean you have really famous people that have a lot of money that if they are arrested they will put their mugshots no matter who you are they will put it up their. And you have to think if people don't know about your mugshot up their but one person does they can take advantage of that and blackmail you into giving your money on keeping quiet but if you don't care it won't matter just be honest at that point if you don't care.

Unknown said...

Aleiyha Crittenden
I believe that no one’s mugshot should be uploaded online until the suspect has been found guilty . It could ruin lives of many people especially those who are found innocent . If someone wants a job and are found innocent and their picture is already posted on the internet then they more than likely are not going to be able to get that job . When doing this online it is protected by the First Amendment “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.” Even though this act is protected by the First Amendment it is a violation of our civil rights . Your posting a picture of someone without their consent which is definitely not okay .

Unknown said...

i think it is good to have your mugshot because what if that person is dangerous and has escaped, but i think the mugshots should not be posted until proven guilty. many people are innocent and then gets made fun of because of the mugshot.

Unknown said...

Hunxho
I think it isn't right that they put your mugshot out before you are convicted . If people got theirs posted for a murder and thy end up getting found innocent everyone is going to look at them differently because of their mugshot.

Unknown said...

In the state of south Carolina once you are arrested and booked in jail, you then have no say so in anything that happens to you,they can post any image of you to the internet and there is nothing you can do about it. Travis Harris

Unknown said...

Although it is legal,I feel that it is wrong to post a mugshot of someone who hasn't been convicted mainly because you may or may not have actually committed the crime. The posting of mugshots is protected by the first amendment stating that, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." -Chiana

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-rights-do-people-have-to-their-own-mug-shots-online

Unknown said...

To me i thibk its stupid.cuas its not right to put innocent people mugshots online espacilly if there not even convicted yet .it dose violate our civil right. A person shouldnt be made as a criminal if they aint convicted

Unknown said...

Constitutioncenter.org

Unknown said...

i dont think they should post them because if you didnt do it people still think that you did do it but you didnt

Unknown said...

Eric ummmm I don't think it's right to post mugshots but I think it's for they system to know who they have booked and it public

heather belcher said...

In South Carolina, you have no say so in what happens with your mugshot. Mugshots can help find people when they have absconded, or warn people when someone is out and dangerous. So there is a good reason to share some mugshots. In the United States, arrest records are not released before a finding of guilt. I think its good that we have mugshot-Heather Belcher
https://www.quora.com/In-the-US-why-are-mugshots-made-public-before-the-suspect-is-convicted-by-the-court

Unknown said...

I am speaking from personal experience here, I believe it should be right to post the mug shots as it has ruined the lives of my parents.
-Edward B.

Unknown said...

if people really think whatever people on the internet is true a lot of people are wrong but its best to look into it just to make sure. Just don't walk up to someone and confront them about whatever is on jailbirds.

Unknown said...

Fernando- I think that that is wrong and that nobody should do that because you can do nothing wrong but be treated differently forever just because you are in a mugshot. These actions are protected by the first amendment which states "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."

Unknown said...

Siarra Staines
I believe that putting someones mugshots up before they are convicted is wrong and can damage their reputation also limited their choices and opportunities in life.In florida the federal government is under no obligation to release mugshots of accused criminals under the Freedom of Information Act, even though many states and localities routinely make such booking photos public, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/02/court-ruling-keeps-federal-mugshots-secret-115210

Unknown said...

January 17, 2019 at 3:41 PM
Aleiyha Crittenden responding : When did just black people come into this ? We are not the only people with their mugshots online . It's literally every race not a specific one, anyways I absolutely agree with the rest of you comment . People who get arrested should have their on say so on rather they want their mugshot online or not . It's just really not fair at all and it violates our civil rights .

Unknown said...

The mugshots should't be put up if they aren't guilty if they are then put it up but if not than no.

Unknown said...

August 28, 2019 6:24 am
I agree
-Chiana

Unknown said...

Siarra Staines

I agree
-Chiana

Unknown said...

Florida is famous for among other things most states and the federal government have laws that provide access to non-confidential document. But i don’t think its ok if they publish your mugshot before being guilty because what if they haven't done anything wrong but its already up there.

Unknown said...

Hey Hunxho I agree with you because you make some good points and we are on the same side and agree with each other

Unknown said...

hey Sierra Staines I agree with the points you made and agree that it is wrong to post someones mugshots up before knowing if they are innocent or guilty.

Unknown said...

Seth Gottschalk

I think that the practice of posting mugshots on the internet before the person is convicted of the crimes they did or didn't commit is wrong. I think it violates our civil rights as people of this country. “Mugshots are posted in two ways: they are either published by the police department, or released to private entities upon request.” says Christopher Coble, Esq. [ Retrieved from https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2015/10/is-it-legal-to-publish-mugshots-before-a-guilty-verdict.html]. Freedom of the press should not override a citizen’s personal freedoms or rights. According to the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 11, a person is innocent until proven guilty. A mugshot makes a person look guilty even though they might be innocent.